That’s an Expensive Heart Attack
This poor man probably had another heart attack the moment he saw what he owed for the first one. So, would that be considered a two-in-one deal, meaning he gets the second one treated for free?
In all honesty, for that price, he could have recovered at an all-inclusive five-star hotel instead. He probably would be far happier and less inclined to suffer another heart attack upon leaving. Follow us for more life hacks.
Why We Always Eat Breakfast
For those who skip out on the most important meal of the day, let this be a life lesson: always eat breakfast! Apparently, there’s a lot more at risk here than just some hunger pains. Malnourishment can end up costing some serious bucks.
This poor guy really just could have rested at any nearby establishment, sat in the AC, and eaten a snack. Instead, he got an experience that straight-up broke the bank.
We’d Wait to Get Home
This woman carried that baby inside of her for nine months and now she’s expected to pay money to carry the child some more?! Silly us, we thought that a moment with one’s newborn child was priceless. Apparently, it’s definitely got a price and it’s a steep one.
We pass no judgment on these parents, but given the state of our bank accounts, we’d probably just wait to get home to hold our newborn.
He Should Become a Doctor
We don’t recommend trying this at home, however, this risky method did save this guy a lot of money! If one is confident enough in their abilities, and not too squeamish, this can become an excellent life hack.
Of course, it’d be better if essential services like this were free, or at the very least affordable, but we don’t live in a perfect world, do we? Given his experience, as unwanted as it was, this guy should become a doctor and make some serious cash!
Um, a Little Help Here?
One might think that their essential procedures will be covered if they put the necessary plans into place, however, that’s not always how things shake out. Sometimes, one’s monthly payments add up to be more than what they get back in return.
While any financial assistance is helpful, this particular instance begs the question: would it be better for one to just save up their own money instead of hoping to be covered in a time of need?
How They Get Repeat Customers
Clearly, this is how they get repeat customers. They can make this guy come back a million times over with this method of serving him breakfast he’s allergic to. One would think that, given why he was there in the first place, they’d be sensitive to this guy’s allergies.
On the plus side, at least he’s in a safe environment to have an allergic reaction. That’s if he’s got enough money in his bank account, of course.
Now, There’s a Loophole
This loophole may be incredibly unethical but it’s actually entirely legal. One could think that they’re going to receive all the care that they need, with little to no payment of their own, and then this happens.
There’s not a whole lot someone can do when they’re in need of urgent care and the professionals available aren’t covered by the plan. Apparently, it’s up to the individual to decide if they want to finance their own treatments or not. Unless, of course, they’re unconscious — like this woman was.
It Wasn’t a Nice Day
Unless this doctor has the Midas Touch, and everything she comes in contact with turns to gold, we don’t think that touching this woman’s back for a few seconds was deserving of how the bills touched the OP’s bank account.
“Touched” is an understatement, “plowed through” might be a bit more accurate. At least the doctor wished her a nice day. We imagine that this woman didn’t have a nice day, though, not in the slightest.
She Can’t Choose Just One
When this woman was asked to share an instance in which a health-related issue caused her financial stress, she was almost unable to choose just one experience. Unfortunately, she’s had enough health-related situations to be quite far into debt.
Clearly, this woman is so distraught by her situation that she’s broken down all the numbers in order to understand exactly what she’s paid for, minute by minute. Now, the question is: how long will it take her to earn it back?
Which Was More Painful?
Serious question: which was more painful? The ailment that guy went in for or the bill he got afterward? Well, one can be resolved with some painkillers and the other… let’s just say it’ll take a lot more to deal with.
We understand that doctors aren’t all-knowing gods and it does take time to understand what a patient needs. That being said, we can definitely see how this guy was frustrated by his bill.
Exploring His Wallet
Well, they certainly explored something — that’s for sure. Clearly, this procedure was meant to explore his wallet and see what he can afford. Unfortunately, it doesn’t look like this guy has the funds left to explore anything else.
The problem with these types of tests is that even if it’s discovered the patient needs to tend to something health-related, they may not be able to afford the relevant procedures. So, are people meant to pay for the tests or the actual treatments?
World’s Most Expensive Band-Aid
For that price, a person can buy a custom-made designer Band-Aid that was blessed by Lady Gaga. Okay, maybe not, but that’s still got to be the most expensive Band-Aid in the world.
Had this person known what they’d be charged, they may have just opted to hold some toilet paper over the area in question until they could get to the nearest pharmacy. We honestly wouldn’t be able to blame them.
They Could Have Carried Him
Given how short of a distance this guy already was from the hospital, they really could have just carried him there. We’re pretty sure that he wouldn’t even mind crawling to the hospital doors upon waking up, rather than paying such a steep price to be transported a few feet.
It doesn’t seem like using an ambulance would really save any time, anyway, in this scenario. Now, we know never to pass out in a hospital parking lot. Either that or try to pass it off as napping.
Told You So
While it’s always nice to get input from an expert, we’re not really sure that anyone should have to pay that price to hear someone state the obvious. This may be something that didn’t really require confirmation from a professional.
At least now the OP knows, without a doubt, what the issue is. Now, she’ll need to pay to find out how to resolve the issue. Then, she’ll need to pay even more to actually get it resolved.
She Has a Choice?
It’s nice and all that the pharmacy is asking this woman what her decision is but does she really have much of a choice? She needs to live and she needs to be able to eat, so it stands to reason that she needs insulin.
There really isn’t an option to go without it, so what’s one to do if they simply don’t have the funds? That’s a question that we truly don’t want the answer to and we hope the OP will never have to find out either.
This Is Per Treatment!
Imagine recovering from a life-threatening illness just to spend the rest of your life trying to pay it off rather than enjoying having your health back again. We imagine, in this case, the fear would be insufferable.
Not only does this woman need to worry that her health may be at risk again if the illness returns, but she’ll also have to worry about financing any potentially necessary treatments. The stress alone is enough to make a person sick!
Talk About Regretting a Meal
We’re genuinely concerned that the OP will never eat again. A person can’t always tell if a food is going to cause a negative reaction or not and while no one wants food poisoning, this individual really got a bad deal.
Not only did they have to feel unwell but they also had a hefty bill to pay for just a couple of hours of treatment. We wonder how long it’ll take him to pay off what those two hours cost?
Just a Typical Family
If we were this guy, we would instruct our kids to seriously never get sick! As if that’s something that children can help. The fact that this is money the typical family needs to put aside — for an essential need — is a bit concerning.
The part that really breaks us is this father’s concern about what an emergency would do to his family. Or what if he loses his job and no longer has the help of an employer? Let’s hope he’ll never find out.
It’s an Entire Salary
This person is a high school teacher, so for them, this bill equates to an entire month’s salary. What about all the other things the OP needs to pay for that month? Food? Rent? We assume that’ll come out of her savings.
Well, there goes whatever she wanted to use her savings for… Although, given her salary and the fact that teachers are grossly underpaid, we’re concerned that she may not have savings at all.
Time Is a Social Construct
To be fair, how we feel time passing is extremely subjective. That being said, we can probably all agree that five minutes doesn’t equate a “long” amount of time. Apparently, the doctor disagreed and those five minutes felt like an eternity to them.
So, if five minutes is a long visit, what’s a short visit? Thirty seconds? Time is a social construct, after all, and so is the need to pay for essential services.
Talk About an Unwanted Visitor
No one can blame this guy for being “unprepared” or “irresponsible” or anything like that. There is no way that this man can receive any blame for this surprise bill. Let’s be honest — who among us anticipates getting bit by a wild bat?
There are those people who like to blame others for not being financially stable enough for these events, as if someone could be ready for anything. However, even those people shouldn’t have anything to say here.
“Young, Dumb, and Broke”
This man’s experience is the perfect example of how one accident can ruin a person’s entire future, particularly when it comes to their finances. To be so young — and expected to have so much money on-hand — is not only unfair but also unrealistic.
Most 21-year-olds are working part-time jobs while in college, so where are they supposed to have that kind of cash from? Oh right, they’re supposed to file for bankruptcy at 23 years old.
It Wasn’t a Merry Christmas
This poor guy most definitely did not have a Merry Christmas. Given that he was unconscious, he couldn’t even choose not to take an ambulance, so he’s forced with the charges. That being said, it’s perfectly clear that an ambulance was necessary for that scenario.
It’s just a shame that the cost of it is so high… Something tells us that this guy isn’t going to want to buy Christmas decorations again anytime soon.
Classism Shouldn’t Be a Thing
Substance abuse is a very real struggle that can affect anyone of any class, so why is it that only those who are well-to-do can get quality treatment? Are the poor meant to just remain left with their dependencies, without any help?
The interesting thing is that people like to stereotype the lower class as always having issues with substance abuse, but they don’t take into account that there’s no affordable care for it. So, of course, it would appear that it affects the lower-class more.
It’s Financial Russian Roulette
Choosing to pay for a plan is a bit like playing financial Russian Roulette. People put money into these companies in the hopes that they’ll get even more back in their time of need.
However, there’s always the possibility that the company won’t approve of a certain procedure the individual feels is necessary. It’s a risk one takes, sometimes it pays off, and other times it doesn’t. Unfortunately, for this guy, it most definitely did not.
Stay Tuned for More…
While choosing to pay each month in the hopes of getting it back when one needs it can be risky, this person discovered what happens when they decide to be self-reliant for their health-related finances. This isn’t even the total bill and we’re already terrified!
Unfortunately, it appears that trying to pay for health treatments independently isn’t a good solution but neither is relying on an outside source that requires monthly payments. It seems impossible to win in these situations.
Not Us, That’s for Sure
We’d really like to know how these people managed to get the payment demands to stop. We just hope that the issue is put to bed for good and won’t haunt them later on.
If so, they should publish a book, teach a course, or do anything else to help educate the masses. The question of who has that kind of money just lying around is a completely legitimate one and the answer is: definitely not us!
Let’s See Them ”Choose”
Maybe someone should explain to those demanding the money what constitutes an actual “choice” because this is not it. These people did what literally anyone would have “chosen” to do in this situation.
What’s an amount of money when talking about someone’s baby living or not? If the people sending the bills were in that scenario (to be clear, we don’t wish that on them), we truly believe that they would make the exact same decision.
Two Times the Charm?
We really hope that the second procedure was at least free but we have a sinking feeling that it wasn’t. If this establishment just wants people’s money, they can continue down this road without any end in sight.
They can tell this woman that each test is inconclusive until she finally gives up, runs out of money, or tries another location. At which point, they can do the exact same to someone else. Welcome to the not-so-wonderful world of greed.
Timing Is Everything
What would have happened if this man didn’t have the amount the representative was asking of him? Would his daughter have been sent away untreated? We also feel that this payment should be considered a transaction done under duress.
We don’t think, not even for a second, that this representative’s timing was accidental. They knew this man would pay anything at that moment, which is exactly why they chose to come in asking for money before the procedure.
Can He Get a Refund?
This poor guy literally has to pay to be told that he can’t receive treatment or service. They still charged him even though they could not help him! Granted, they still did the work and provided the service he was charged for, we’re not arguing that.
However, it’s still a shame that there aren’t any return policies or discounts put into place for these situations. Now, he’s going to have to pay for the exact same treatments elsewhere, all over again.
Having a Baby Ain’t Cheap
We all know that raising a child isn’t exactly cheap but actually birthing the baby is no financial picnic either. Interestingly, there are places that don’t allow the termination of pregnancies.
So, what’s a woman meant to do if she can’t end a surprise pregnancy and doesn’t have the money to give birth in a hospital? Is she supposed to give birth at home, like in the old days? Let’s not forget that survival rates for mothers weren’t very high back then…
Fighting Over Who Cashes In
Unfortunately, it sounds like the EMTs were a lot more concerned with getting paid than caring for the OP’s health. We completely understand the desire to get compensated for the work one has done but they should have realized that arguing over her unconscious body was out of line.
It seems like her getting billed for both ambulances was just a case of someone being a sore loser and charging the OP for something they knew they shouldn’t.
After All That…
This is why many people choose to let health issues go untreated, rather than seeing a doctor. If the issue turns out to be nothing, the person has wasted a ton of money to be told that they didn’t need any treatments anyway.
However, a problem that does require treatment can be extremely dangerous if it’s ignored. The result? People end up feeling as if they’re risking their money when seeking care, or they just don’t get any help at all and hope for the best.
Here’s a Life Hack
For a distance as short as this one, there’s really not a whole lot that can be done in an ambulance anyway. Our advice? Take an Uber to the hospital. It’ll be a lot cheaper, more comfortable, and take around the same amount of time.
Of course, we don’t recommend this life hack for someone who needs immediate treatment even for that one mile. This advice is more for cases in which someone just needs to get to the hospital and those few minutes won’t make any difference.
Were They Good Nights?
We don’t know the specifics here, and we’re sure the OP made the right decision for them, but that’s a really steep price to pay for just two nights! For that amount, they could have flown abroad, gotten treatment elsewhere, returned home — and they’d still have money to spare.
Of course, we assume that this was an emergency situation so there was really no choice in the matter. We just hope that the OP received stellar care for those two nights, at the very least.
It Pays to Be Observant
For that price, we’ll observe that guy all he wants! Really, hospitals should have a policy that people can bring in an observer of their choice, rather than pay the hospital staff to check on them.
After all, most people’s loved ones would want to stay by their side in a hospital anyway. So, why pay for tons of people to observe that one individual? Next up, we’ll try to solve world hunger!
Maybe He Was Naughty?
We know about Santa delivering lumps of coal to those on the naughty list but this is way worse! Not only does the OP have a hefty bill to pay but he’s got to do it around the holidays, which isn’t exactly a cheap time of the year.
We hope that he at least still got his Christmas cards, and some awesome Christmas gifts, to make up for this unfortunate start to his holiday season.
Why We’re Not Snake People
We’re not entirely sure how this guy got bit by a rattlesnake but we do know that whatever activity he was doing just became extremely expensive. Let this be a lesson to us all not to interact with wild animals in any way.
Assuming we haven’t got tons of money just laying around, that is. Unless this was some sort of Harry Potter-related snake and it was trying to talk to the guy, it’s truly just not worth the price tag.
One Special Day
Spending a lot of money on just one specific day is sometimes frowned upon but it’s not exactly unheard of. Some people choose to splurge on a wedding, some want to use their money for a huge birthday party, and those who are grieving may choose to dedicate their funds to a loved one’s funeral.
However, this woman had to spend that kind of money on a day in the hospital and something tells us that she’s not too happy about it.
Something’s Very Wrong Here
Clearly, this individual is in some serious need of care but we’re unsure as to exactly why. By the looks of all these bills, the doctors don’t really know either. It seems that by the time this person learns what’s ailing them, and how to treat it, they won’t have any funds left to solve the problem!
We almost wonder if the doctors are instructed to pretend not to know what’s wrong so they can bill the person for more tests. That’s just a conspiracy theory, though.
A Criminal’s Origin Story
People like to judge criminals who purchase illegal substances but do those who are judging consider that those “criminals” may not have other options?
You only need to take one look at these medication prices in order to understand how someone may feel pushed to buy pain relievers from other sources. Imagine being in that much pain and unable to afford any medication to help relieve it. We’re not saying it’s okay but it definitely understandable.
Who Makes That Much Money?
A lot of people don’t make that much money in a lifetime, forget having enough to just spend on one week! Here are just some of the things people can buy with that kind of money: a house, a trip around the world, a Hollywood career (we’re looking at you, Rebecca Black).
Or, apparently, a week in the hospital. Who gets to spend their money on which? Luck, a person’s health, and the bills decide that.
“Excellent” Is Subjective
The word “excellent” is most certainly subjective, here. We’d argue that there’s simply nothing excellent about this situation at all. Well, except the baby being born, of course.
But, owing that kind of money for an emergency procedure that couldn’t be avoided must put a serious damper on the joy of bringing a child into the world. We don’t even want to know what would happen if they didn’t have that financial assistance available…
It’s Easy to Become Homeless
Many people don’t realize the terrifying truth: it’s incredibly easy to become homeless and it can happen to absolutely anyone. Just one health scare that costs a bit too much is all it takes. Of course, no one will choose their home over their health!
That being said, it’s important to consider what homelessness will do to one’s mental health, which is also a major factor in a person’s well-being. It’s safe to say that people who have to make these choices are in an impossible situation.
These so-called ‘nice guys’ are people that believe basic social expectations are a currency for romance, and often feel entitled to a woman’s attention, time, and body. Below, you’ll see 40+ guys who completely flipped the switch and showed their true colors.
The Hopeless Romantic
This reaction is tamer than most, but still cringe-worthy enough to induce a bout of secondhand embarrassment. The official ‘nice guy’ in this exchange attempts to ‘love bomb’ the recipient. The rejection resulted in an uncomfortable declaration of love, which can be considered better than some of the more abusive reactions we’ll see…
Time to Backpedal
The go-to, signature move of most ‘nice guys’ is the backpedal — which is, once their advances have been swiftly rejected, the ‘nice guy’ will usually attempt to save face by telling the recipient that they’re ‘not that attractive anyway,’ and labeled as a ‘feminazi’ or an array of other foul insults.
Although the nice guy in this exchange is back-pedaling like a Tour-De-France rider, it makes our hearts sing to see this dude getting aptly called out for his inappropriate advances — despite the fact that it’s also frustrating that women still have to deal with this kind of behavior.
Although this exchange is thankfully brief, it’s still an interesting dynamic. What’s amusing is that the rejected ‘nice guy’ resorted to calling the recipient promiscuous, which is a favored insult among the incel community.
However, in declining the advances of someone they don’t know, the woman in this exchange is proving themselves to be the opposite. Whilst it can be tempting to call them out on their behavior, like the post above, sometimes it’s best to just block and ignore.
A Really Awkward Spelling Mistake
This post has some begging, it has some insults, it depersonalizes the recipient by referring to them simply as the collective ‘you females.’ All of these are key factors in an online exchange with a ‘nice guy.’
However, what this message also has is an unfortunate, yet wildly hilarious spelling mistake that clearly shows this guy’s intelligence level. Also, you have to wonder whether he genuinely thought telling the recipient that “he’s vegan now” would overrule all the red flags and result in a date.
He Rejected Himself
This post can best be summed up by Brooklyn Nine-Nine’s Jake Peralta, who once said, “Oooh a self-burn, those are rare.” And while maybe not necessarily a self-burn, the guy in this message exchange didn’t even give himself a chance and… rejected himself?
He’s clearly quick to blame his ex-girlfriend for his behavior, but it seems obvious that the ex-in-question dodged a massive man-shaped bullet as the guy seems unable to accept responsibility for his actions.
A Human-Shaped Red Flag
This guy really sat down one night and thought, “Instead of responding like a calm and rational human being, I can overreact and head for a casual stroll down guilt trip lane.”
For context, the recipient of this over-the-top reaction had changed her online dating profile as she had been speaking with other people on the app, resulting in Mr. Nice Guy throwing a tantrum when he realized he wasn’t the only person she was interacting with. If you ask us, this guy has displayed so many red flags, he’s more flagpole than human.
She’s Just Not That Into You
This guy thought an angel emoji at the end of his rant would solidify his spot as the good guy in this exchange. As the saying goes, it’s not that girls don’t like nice guys — it’s just that you’re probably not as nice as you think you are.
But, this Queen over here put this nice guy in his place and told it like it is, with some solid advice included. Louder for the guys in the back, learn to handle rejection! Not everyone is going to like you, and that is ok!
“Travel Buddies or Something”
We’re not quite sure what universe this nice guy is living in, but apparently, it’s one where space and time operate on different levels than our own universe. This is evident, as even though he pursued the recipient, she ended up being the time-waster for having rejected him.
And while he seems insistent that he only wanted to catch up ‘as friends’ (which makes us extremely skeptical), we have to wonder — is a friend still a friend even if they have an ulterior motive?
That’s What You Get
Behold, the ‘nice guy’ mantra of, “Guess that’s what I get for being a nice guy.” No matter how polite a rejection can be worded, there are men out there that will undoubtedly take the ultimate offense to rejection.
We get that no one likes to feel rejected, it’s not a nice feeling and can result in a heavy hit to one’s self-esteem. However, just as age is no excuse for bad behavior, rejection is not an excuse to throw around insults.
Who’s the Snowflake?
Here we have the boy who cried wolf, or in this case, the boy who cried “it was just a joke!” when he gets called out on his insult. It’s a tale as old as time and accurately depicted in this message exchange.
It’s also quite ironic that the nice guy is calling the recipient a ‘snowflake’ for getting irritated at his messages, however, his overly defensive reaction could be considered snowflake worthy also. And we don’t know about you, but we’d rather be a snowflake than a cringe-worthy ‘nice guy.’
The Songbird of Our Generation
Another key trait of a ‘nice guy’ is their sense of entitlement. Usually, they think they’re entitled to a woman’s time and affection when they feel they’ve provided something of value.
In this case, it seems the nice guy feels entitled to affection because he sent the recipient a song, even though he acknowledged that the woman was married. And although we’re glad the recipient decided to ignore his petulant tantrum, we kind of want to know what song he sent her.
A Stress-Inducing Stress Reliever
This guy tried to blame his inappropriate advances on liquid courage and on his friend, though the recipient saw right through it. And it’s always a mystery as to why a guy will message a girl in the first place, despite the fact that he thinks she’s ‘not that cute anyway.’
The only kind of stress reliever these ‘nice guys’ need is a nice, stable bout of therapy — as well as a rude awakening to how to talk to women properly.
So Many Backhanded Compliments
Although self-proclaimed ‘nice guys’ are lurking everywhere, the gaming and cosplay community seems to be inundated with them. Many women who are gamers tend to keep their identity hidden, for this exact reason, and female cosplayers are often complaining about harassment and inappropriate advances.
As gaming seems to often be considered a man’s pastime, women in the community tend to be put on pedestals, harassed, and objectified by nice guys who feel they deserve attention at the drop of a compliment.
Not Your Gorgeous Sunflower
It’s an unspoken rule, that only close friends or family can give you a nickname. If your parents call you their gorgeous sunflower? It’s sweet. If a random guy on the internet calls you his gorgeous sunflower, totally ignoring the fact that you’re in a relationship?
It’s creepy, and it definitely oversteps the person’s boundaries. Though the recipient was polite in her rejection and even offered to continue the conversation, the nice guy was clearly offended by the dismissal of his advances.
So Cheesy, It’s a Fondue
You never know — cheesy pickup lines may work for some people. However, for guys who want a fighting chance, it’s probably best to stay away from the cheese and cliches and shoot the shot with something original.
Or better yet, don’t try and shoot the shot at all when the girl in question clearly has a boyfriend. And even better still, accept the rejection calmly with humility and respect instead of flipping and calling the girl a psycho. Just some pointers.
There Are No Words
This conversation started average enough — a classic nice guy scenario of getting offended at a rejection, desperately asking for just a chance, even though the recipient of his advances was polite and chatty the whole way through.
What is definitely 100% not ok is this nice guy’s parting comment. In no universe is it ok to say something like that to someone who’s grieving. And we sincerely hope that after his little outburst, the recipient ignored, reported, and blocked this user for his out-of-line reaction.
The IQ Snob
Firstly, after a little bit of research it looks like if the woman was talking to someone with an IQ of six, she would be talking to a rock.
Secondly, looking at the nice guy’s spamming messages and subsequent flip, we sincerely doubt his statement, “I would treat you right.” It’s just a hunch, but we think he would probably treat this girl very, very wrong. With this in mind, the recipient should consider herself lucky that she “lost her chance.”
Don’t Call Me Baby
For some context, this pair had met on a dating app, and this was their first exchange via text after she had provided him with her phone number. There’s nothing that produces the ‘ick’ quicker than a guy not respecting boundaries.
So, just a tip — if someone says, “I’m sorry, I don’t appreciate that/being called that,” the right response is to apologize and make sure it doesn’t happen again. For an example of the wrong response, simply check out how this nice guy flipped.
Definition of a Quick Flip
This nice guy’s first message wasn’t that bad. At a first glance, it was kind and respectful. The only problem was that he messaged her unprompted after finding her social media information on a dating app, which is… creepy.
The second message, however, speaks for itself. It’s a major sign of insecurity and self-esteem issues to completely flip and turn nasty, and in this case, it was to a simple lack of response — not even to a written rejection!
Leave the Cat Out of It!
Asking for a friend (named Brian) — who else feels completely vulnerable telling someone their name? Anyone? We’re pleased that this recipient decided not to even acknowledge this so-called nice guy’s poor behavior with a response.
As behavior experts say, by acknowledging someone’s bad behavior toward you, you let them know that they got to you and then they win. And it’s clear (particularly by the last message — leave the cat alone!), well, that this guy is the opposite of a winner.
A Fedora With Hands Wrote This
Feast your eyes on this monstrosity of a message. We’re not quite sure whether to burst out laughing or to run screaming in terror. The message chain had gone on for quite a while before the ‘nice guy’ decided to end the exchange with this.
The role-playing elements definitely give all the secondhand embarrassment vibes, and we have to wonder if he let off some steam after this by drinking a bottle of Mountain Dew and practicing his sword work.
Take a Chance on Me
In a ‘nice guys’’ imagination, they believe that they’re entitled to a woman’s time and affection for being nice, or alternatively, they resent the woman for ‘friend zoning’ them and not allowing them the chance to offer their romantic services.
However, it can be assumed that the constant, desperate pleas for a woman to give them a chance — followed by the furious, curse-laden statements about the woman refusing to give them a chance is possibly one of the world’s biggest turn-offs.
Will Happily Accept This Loss
Why do nice guys so often tell the woman who rejected them, “your loss”? Can someone please explain what it is the woman has lost — apart from losing a lifetime full of guilt trips, constant emotional manipulation, likely the need to mother grown men, a need to constantly deal with adult tantrums?
Or perhaps they’re losing out on the possible verbal and emotional abuse, or time and effort wasted on a man more in love with the idea of a relationship than with the actual woman. Other than that, we can’t think of anything else lost.
People in Relationships Need Not Reply
Not seen in this post are the following messages from the nice guy accusing the woman of leading him on and engaging in promiscuous behavior, and stating that he’s looking out for his fellow ‘bros’ because she dared to text him back when she already had a boyfriend.
It appears to be jealousy and embarrassment manifesting itself in a so-called attempt to uphold ‘bro code.’ Though if he was so worried about bro code, we have to wonder why he messaged in the first place, after suspecting the woman was still in a relationship.
Is This Respect?
Oh, look. Another guy who thinks he’s entitled to a date because he did the bare minimum in terms of having a conversation, including not sending a nude photograph. If relationships all started just because people were ‘respectful,’ said hello, and paid someone a compliment, there would be no single people left on planet Earth.
Except for maybe this ‘nice guy,’ who seems to be a bit confused about the definition of respect. Hint, it doesn’t involve the vulgar language he used in response.
Hey, Big Spender
Oh, look — a high roller who thinks that because he won money at a casino, he’s entitled to intimacy. Someone should probably let him know that this isn’t really how the world works.
However, if that’s what he’s looking for in terms of female interaction, there are establishments that will take that money and help him out. And honestly, if it was a choice of paying the rent and giving this nice guy the time of day, we’d rather move house.
Reading This Was an Effort
This entire message seems to be riddled with backhanded compliments, though we would take the thing as one big insult. Maybe this nice guy should go on and write a self-help book, for all the opinions and advice he seems to have on this woman’s mental health.
After reading through his lengthy message, it seems as though he would be the one to benefit from reading some self-help books. Despite claiming to be ‘unaffected and making six figures,” he can’t help but appear extremely affected.
A Lose-Lose Situation
Nothing screams ‘desperation and entitlement’ like trying to force someone into simply talking to you for a bit. And nothing then screams ‘nice guy’ like rudely and insultingly calling someone a liar for not immediately rejecting their advances. It’s a lose-lose situation here.
If the woman had rejected him right off the bat, as he seems to have preferred, it is guaranteed that he would have messaged something about “not even giving him a chance.” And when she gives him a chance but then isn’t interested, he cries that “she lied and was leading him on.” What’s a girl to do?
An Expert on Self-Reflection
A concept that seems almost alien to a lot of nice guys who can’t handle rejection — women are allowed to change their minds. A change in mind may have nothing to do with the man in question, or it may have everything to do with the man in question.
But either way, a woman who initiates a conversation is not then obligated to see the exchange through to the end, particularly if she realizes that the pair of them are not on the same page.
A Strange Concept of Nice
We have to wonder if nice guys operate in the same language as everyone else. Because in the instance of this message exchange, it seems this guy has a completely different concept of what ‘being nice’ actually involves.
Nice means being pleasant, agreeable, or satisfactory. Rude is defined as being offensively impolite or ill-mannered. Comparing these two definitions, it doesn’t take a degree in languages or communication to realize that this nice guy is, in fact, not so nice.
Nothing’s Better Than Guacamole
In this woman’s defense, there are very few things in the world that are better than guacamole. Guac has set the bar and it’s the level that every man, woman, and child should strive to meet.
This nice guy is clearly deluded if he thinks he comes close to guacamole, and this woman was well within her right to turn him down. Looking at his reaction, we think even soggy tortilla chips would be better than this ‘nice guy.’
“I Was Only Joking!”
Where do we start with this one? Firstly, this nice guy seems to think that despite not knowing the woman all that well, he should come before family. Secondly, after he was called out for his poor attitude, he tried to play it off as a joke — which is seriously offputting.
Finally, he tried to initiate the final rejection before the recipient could get their first, obviously thinking that if he’s the one to do the ‘breaking up’ then he could likely claim that she was ‘crazy’ and he had to ditch her. Typical, right?
This Guy Did a Full 360
This post is short, but not so sweet. And slightly confusing. It starts polite, then quickly and succinctly evolves into the ‘nice guy,’ sending a brief insult.
We have to wonder when looking at the nice guy’s final reaction — which is him saying “you’re welcome”— does he genuinely think that he has done the woman a favor by insulting her? Does he think that he was a good person by masterfully pointing out a character flaw of hers so that she may now work on herself?
This Is Seriously Messed Up
Another message exchange that has us lost for words. Although it’s hard to determine whether the nice guy in this situation is a narcissist, he’s definitely displaying some narcissistic tendencies.
Lack of empathy, a sense of entitlement, lack of boundaries, exaggerated need for attention, and perceiving everything as a threat — even this woman’s deceased partner — are some sure signs that even if not clinically narcissistic, this ‘nice guy’ is at the very least extremely self-centered.
Beta vs. Alpha
It turns out, it’s not always women who have to put up with harassment from ‘nice guys.’ More often than you would expect, these nice guys will message the boyfriend of their current infatuation, although we’re not quite sure what they think will happen.
In their imagination, they probably expect the girl’s boyfriend to quietly and respectfully break up with her so the nice guy can come swooping in from the sidelines. It may work for terrible romance novels but not so much for real life.
See Ya Never
This woman summed it up best when she said “you can’t accept that I don’t want you, then insult me because your feelings get hurt.” Is it too much to ask for, to be able to live in a world where talking to men doesn’t immediately mean they assume you want to hook up?
At the very least a world where men who are rejected don’t always respond with anger, insults, or a manipulative guilt trip. There’s still hope for such a world — we just have to work towards it.
Leave the Windbreaker Alone
Another short and not so sweet message chain, this is another nice guy who flipped over no response at all. Interestingly, judging from the date stamps, it looks like this guy had been stewing over this girl and her lack of response for almost two weeks — which you would expect to be enough time to simply accept the rejection and move on.
Alas, this nice guy resorted to insulting the woman’s outfit, and I don’t know about you, but we kind of want to see what the windbreaker looks like.
Just Some Cat Blackmail
For some context on this message exchange, the recipient was trying to raise money for a life-saving operation for her cat. The ‘nice guy’ in question was trying to use her sick cat to blackmail the woman for nude photographs.
If that wasn’t bad enough, he tries to use her cat to guilt-trip her further, then goes on the common nice guy rant about “typical females ignoring him and not bothering to respond,” with some typical insults thrown in for good measure.
Stalker Doesn’t Notice Relationship Status
Analyzing these messages, it appears that this nice guy doesn’t know this woman at all and has simply been stalker her online via her Twitter account. Leave it to a so-called ‘nice guy’ to get jealous and offended when the object of his affections — who’s likely unaware that he even exists — appears to be in a relationship with someone else.
The guy also assumes that her partner is a ‘chad,’ which is a ‘nice guy’ and incel term for an attractive ‘alpha male’ type, who they believe get all the women.
There’s a Thing as Too Assertive
It’s true, confidence is attractive. However, there’s a difference between confidence, assertiveness, and being overly demanding. Real life isn’t 50 Shades of Grey, and aggressively telling a woman “we’re going to be a thing” doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.
In fact, this strategy is probably a one-way ticket to rejection city — as is his response, which is self-deprecating and defies his initial confidence, showing instead how insecure and lonely he probably is.
Growing an audience and a loyal following is, in part, all about connecting with people on a human level. As the woman in this message exchange tries to explain, being rude and demanding isn’t the way to get shout-outs and expand on your network.
Looking at his responses, we have to wonder whether he was simply trying to grow his audience, or whether he had underlying intentions. This is a common tactic used by nice guys, which involves reaching out to a woman under the pretense of being friends, with full intentions of trying to initiate a romantic relationship instead.
This whole situation is just… odd. This nice guy has publicly sent this woman expensive lingerie, which is a gift usually reserved for people who share some kind of intimacy.
It’s not, as the subject of this post points out, for women that you’ve barely had any interactions with in the past two years. Hopefully, this nice guy can get a refund on this expensive lingerie, and the recipient has a strong enough case for a restraining order.
The Rejected Poet
This nice guy clearly has an overinflated sense of abilities and self-worth, as well as feeling like his skills make him entitled to a romantic relationship.
However, what’s even better than his public rant is his complete obliviousness when someone tries to call him out for what he is. Instead of reading the “nice guy” comment and taking the hint to reflect on his behavior, he doubles down and heads dangerously into ‘incel’ territory.
Cringeworthy Is an Understatement
This message is heavy on insults, heavy on self-pity, and also displays some incredibly dangerous ideologies. Some incels who believe that women are responsible for their involuntary celibacy and deserve to be punished have gone as far as committing violent hate crimes against women.
And in this ‘nice guys’ rant, he suggests that “he can see why some guys go to such extremes” and tells the recipient that “she deserves to scream and cry in pain.” Such as horrible and dangerous belief system has no place in modern society.
It’s Now or Never
The crazy thing about this message thread is that the woman on the receiving end was polite, and didn’t necessarily reject this guy’s advances completely. However, it appears that unless this nice guy’s advances are immediately and happily accepted, he considers it a rejection worthy of an angry and vulgar response.
It looks like the woman both “missed her chance” and dodged a bullet. It also sounds like this particular ‘nice guy’ should learn the saying, “Good things come to those who wait.”